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		<title>Comment on Project hell is others – not other people by Terry Madeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Madeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hadn&#039;t thought about projects and project management in this way at all: a useful reminder to step back and take a calmer, more rational view of where our projects are, rather than just ploughing on ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hadn&#8217;t thought about projects and project management in this way at all: a useful reminder to step back and take a calmer, more rational view of where our projects are, rather than just ploughing on ahead.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Project hell is others – not other people by Project management, psychoanalysis, and hell &#124; Vorsprung durch Bürokratie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Project management, psychoanalysis, and hell &#124; Vorsprung durch Bürokratie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A very timely little piece from contentedmanagement.net (great name) on the dangers that lurk within... L&#8217;enfer, Jean-Paul Sartre tells us, c&#8217;est les autres. This is so commonly and simplistically mistranslated as &#8220;hell is other people&#8221; that it&#8217;s become something of a fallacy. Hell for Sartre is not other people; it&#8217;s others. It&#8217;s about our faulty relationship with others and most particularly our psychological other, our id: the basic, instinctual drives that motivate us to seek out pleasure or avoid pain. Those instinctual drives are very much at the heart of every project. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A very timely little piece from contentedmanagement.net (great name) on the dangers that lurk within&#8230; L&#8217;enfer, Jean-Paul Sartre tells us, c&#8217;est les autres. This is so commonly and simplistically mistranslated as &#8220;hell is other people&#8221; that it&#8217;s become something of a fallacy. Hell for Sartre is not other people; it&#8217;s others. It&#8217;s about our faulty relationship with others and most particularly our psychological other, our id: the basic, instinctual drives that motivate us to seek out pleasure or avoid pain. Those instinctual drives are very much at the heart of every project. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on SDL&#8217;s takeover of Alterian by Philippe Parker</title>
		<link>http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/sdl-alterian-takeover/comment-page-1/#comment-8334</link>
		<dc:creator>Philippe Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ian,

I don&#039;t think I intimated that the takeover was for WCM customer acquisition, but precisely that SDL want some kind of social media marketing tool to plug into their WCM.

My hope on the WCM side is that Tridion becomes a better product as a result of the acquisition. I don&#039;t think that SDL would object to improving their product, would they? And similarly that the takeover opens up opportunities for partners.

My product information may be dated, but it is based on discussions with people who implement the software on a daily basis and on checking information from the corporate website (which I recognise is often the last place to get up-to-date information).

But my experience of customers is that -- irrespective of the supplier -- they nearly always survive on an earlier version of the software, so the latest product information is of use to people who haven&#039;t bought licences but not much help to people who have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ian,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I intimated that the takeover was for WCM customer acquisition, but precisely that SDL want some kind of social media marketing tool to plug into their WCM.</p>
<p>My hope on the WCM side is that Tridion becomes a better product as a result of the acquisition. I don&#8217;t think that SDL would object to improving their product, would they? And similarly that the takeover opens up opportunities for partners.</p>
<p>My product information may be dated, but it is based on discussions with people who implement the software on a daily basis and on checking information from the corporate website (which I recognise is often the last place to get up-to-date information).</p>
<p>But my experience of customers is that &#8212; irrespective of the supplier &#8212; they nearly always survive on an earlier version of the software, so the latest product information is of use to people who haven&#8217;t bought licences but not much help to people who have.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SDL&#8217;s takeover of Alterian by Ian Truscott</title>
		<link>http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/sdl-alterian-takeover/comment-page-1/#comment-8322</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Truscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James - Just for the record, speaking personally, having spent time at Alterian - seeing what has happened to Alterian recently, to my good friends there across the business and the office closures is a tragedy.  
 

The reasons for it are broader than the WCM business and it was widely reported that the Alterian  &quot;review of the business&quot; was not for an acquisition  - http://bit.ly/uDTTu1


However, we can hopefully draw a line under that - it&#039;s an exciting prospect to have Alterian in SDL. Also worth noting - Alterian is being acquired by SDL, not our WCM division. 


Your view of the Mediasurface sale to Alterian is also a little off. I don&#039;t claim to be on the inside, but I know the other options facing the business would have mean&#039;t your friends and mine (and me) facing the prospect of &quot;spending more time with the family&quot; back in 2007/8. 


Philippe - Did you get a chance to look at some of the more contemporary ways of working with SDL Tridion - besides VB? 
    
http://prezi.com/tzxk2w9ic284/developing-with-aspnet-mvc-and-tridion/ 


Cheers, 

Ian

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8211; Just for the record, speaking personally, having spent time at Alterian &#8211; seeing what has happened to Alterian recently, to my good friends there across the business and the office closures is a tragedy.  </p>
<p>The reasons for it are broader than the WCM business and it was widely reported that the Alterian  &#8220;review of the business&#8221; was not for an acquisition  &#8211; <a href="http://bit.ly/uDTTu1" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/uDTTu1</a></p>
<p>However, we can hopefully draw a line under that &#8211; it&#8217;s an exciting prospect to have Alterian in SDL. Also worth noting &#8211; Alterian is being acquired by SDL, not our WCM division. </p>
<p>Your view of the Mediasurface sale to Alterian is also a little off. I don&#8217;t claim to be on the inside, but I know the other options facing the business would have mean&#8217;t your friends and mine (and me) facing the prospect of &#8220;spending more time with the family&#8221; back in 2007/8. </p>
<p>Philippe &#8211; Did you get a chance to look at some of the more contemporary ways of working with SDL Tridion &#8211; besides VB? </p>
<p><a href="http://prezi.com/tzxk2w9ic284/developing-with-aspnet-mvc-and-tridion/" rel="nofollow">http://prezi.com/tzxk2w9ic284/developing-with-aspnet-mvc-and-tridion/</a> </p>
<p>Cheers, </p>
<p>Ian</p>
<p>@iantruscott</p>
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		<title>Comment on SDL&#8217;s takeover of Alterian by James Hoskins</title>
		<link>http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/sdl-alterian-takeover/comment-page-1/#comment-8286</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hoskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you keep getting yourself in these positions Ian? ;) I long for the day when you can really speak your mind on these matters and not feel duty bound to follow the corporate line.

Both you and I spoke regularly of the &#039;synergy&#039; that was to be had from the acquisition of Immediacy by Mediasurface but we both know it was bullshit. I had a drink last week with the last of the Immediacy folks who have now lost their jobs in the latest rounds of Alterian redundancy. Try telling them it was all about &#039;synergy&#039;!

Likewise, we both know that the City savvy bosses at Mediasurface sold an underexperienced and naive Alterian a WCM nightmare to save the investments of the chairman et al at a time when the shareprice was plunging.

As Alterian was the only &#039;marketing platform&#039; provider of note in the UK who has gained some market presence beyond the shores of our unilingual island this is as much about the customer base opportunities as it is about anything else.

I really hope that the opportunity Philippe expresses in his final paragraph comes to fruition but in today&#039;s financial climate and with the old guard vendors looking increasingly pressured I fear this will go the same way as other such &#039;synergetic&#039; opportunities in this wonderful world of content technologies ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you keep getting yourself in these positions Ian? <img src='http://www.contentedmanagement.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I long for the day when you can really speak your mind on these matters and not feel duty bound to follow the corporate line.</p>
<p>Both you and I spoke regularly of the &#8217;synergy&#8217; that was to be had from the acquisition of Immediacy by Mediasurface but we both know it was bullshit. I had a drink last week with the last of the Immediacy folks who have now lost their jobs in the latest rounds of Alterian redundancy. Try telling them it was all about &#8217;synergy&#8217;!</p>
<p>Likewise, we both know that the City savvy bosses at Mediasurface sold an underexperienced and naive Alterian a WCM nightmare to save the investments of the chairman et al at a time when the shareprice was plunging.</p>
<p>As Alterian was the only &#8216;marketing platform&#8217; provider of note in the UK who has gained some market presence beyond the shores of our unilingual island this is as much about the customer base opportunities as it is about anything else.</p>
<p>I really hope that the opportunity Philippe expresses in his final paragraph comes to fruition but in today&#8217;s financial climate and with the old guard vendors looking increasingly pressured I fear this will go the same way as other such &#8217;synergetic&#8217; opportunities in this wonderful world of content technologies &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on SDL&#8217;s takeover of Alterian by Ian Truscott</title>
		<link>http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/sdl-alterian-takeover/comment-page-1/#comment-8284</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Truscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 13:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, Philippe I think that some of your product information seems a bit dated, so we need to get you an update. 

But, I think the main thrust of your post is to discuss the acquisition, rather than a detailed assessment of both products against the market. 

I&#039;d suggest that folks need to look beyond the apparent WCM overlap in this acquisition, especially this view that it&#039;s motivated by WCM customer acquisition. A quick look at the numbers just does&#039;t support that. 

Alterian are not a proprietary WCM vendor - WCM is just one piece of a broader marketing platform.

I agree Philippe, Alterian were slow to realize the value of the acquired product assets, but consider the value of language technology and SM2 - rather than just WCM.     

As this is still ongoing and not done yet, neither company can officially reveal the detail of what the future holds.

Cheers, 

Ian

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, Philippe I think that some of your product information seems a bit dated, so we need to get you an update. </p>
<p>But, I think the main thrust of your post is to discuss the acquisition, rather than a detailed assessment of both products against the market. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest that folks need to look beyond the apparent WCM overlap in this acquisition, especially this view that it&#8217;s motivated by WCM customer acquisition. A quick look at the numbers just does&#8217;t support that. </p>
<p>Alterian are not a proprietary WCM vendor &#8211; WCM is just one piece of a broader marketing platform.</p>
<p>I agree Philippe, Alterian were slow to realize the value of the acquired product assets, but consider the value of language technology and SM2 &#8211; rather than just WCM.     </p>
<p>As this is still ongoing and not done yet, neither company can officially reveal the detail of what the future holds.</p>
<p>Cheers, </p>
<p>Ian</p>
<p>@iantruscott</p>
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		<title>Comment on SDL&#8217;s takeover of Alterian by James Hoskins</title>
		<link>http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/sdl-alterian-takeover/comment-page-1/#comment-8255</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hoskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 12:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You hit the nail bang on the head with your last paragraph Philippe :) That wonderful word &#039;synergy&#039; which is used so liberally in these M&amp;A scenarios but more than often means Company A is running out of customers to sell to so needs to buy Company B&#039;s customer base as quickly as possible :( The inevitable result of which is that the &#039;product/s&#039; just become political footballs internally that get kicked around at the mercy of financial decisions. Sadly, I think that nail you&#039;ve just hit is yet another one in the coffin for the old proprietary vendors ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You hit the nail bang on the head with your last paragraph Philippe <img src='http://www.contentedmanagement.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  That wonderful word &#8217;synergy&#8217; which is used so liberally in these M&amp;A scenarios but more than often means Company A is running out of customers to sell to so needs to buy Company B&#8217;s customer base as quickly as possible <img src='http://www.contentedmanagement.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  The inevitable result of which is that the &#8216;product/s&#8217; just become political footballs internally that get kicked around at the mercy of financial decisions. Sadly, I think that nail you&#8217;ve just hit is yet another one in the coffin for the old proprietary vendors &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on I know why the caged bird sings by How I use Twitter for Work &#124; Content Here</title>
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		<dc:creator>How I use Twitter for Work &#124; Content Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just read Philippe Parker&#8217;s thoughtful response to Janus Boye&#8217;s provocative post &#8220;How I use Twitter for Work&#8221;. Both these [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on My threepence for 2011 by Tweets that mention Contented Management &#62; My threepence for 2011 -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Contented Management &#62; My threepence for 2011 -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 04:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Philippe Parker and James Hoskins. James Hoskins said: short, sweet, makes sense... RT @proops my three pence for 2011 http://bit.ly/he1G0G [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Philippe Parker and James Hoskins. James Hoskins said: short, sweet, makes sense&#8230; RT @proops my three pence for 2011 <a href="http://bit.ly/he1G0G" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/he1G0G</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on My threepence for 2011 by Philippe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philippe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there&#039;s generally less work to be had with COTS CMS - I simply don&#039;t know the state of the market - then I think that&#039;s reflective of two things:
1. The products are more off-the-shelf, more mature and require less in the way of technical integration and more in terms of content strategy.
2. The products are missing a trick. A lot of the web apps that I&#039;ve been working with are essentially content-driven. Why wouldn&#039;t you base that functionality on a COTS CMS. Have those products become less flexible as they&#039;ve matured?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s generally less work to be had with COTS CMS &#8211; I simply don&#8217;t know the state of the market &#8211; then I think that&#8217;s reflective of two things:<br />
1. The products are more off-the-shelf, more mature and require less in the way of technical integration and more in terms of content strategy.<br />
2. The products are missing a trick. A lot of the web apps that I&#8217;ve been working with are essentially content-driven. Why wouldn&#8217;t you base that functionality on a COTS CMS. Have those products become less flexible as they&#8217;ve matured?</p>
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