Comments on: ‘Bove the contentious waves he kept http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/bove-the-contentious-waves-he-kept/ Become contented about Content Management Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:05:45 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Michael http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/bove-the-contentious-waves-he-kept/comment-page-1/#comment-1055 Michael Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:51:32 +0000 http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/?p=168#comment-1055 Haven't actually tried it yet (though a friend tells me he's just sent an invite, hurrah), and it sounds to me like a bottomless attention sink, but I wouldn't write it off yet. It certainly wouldn't be the first collaborative tool where we have to evolve a social convention for how to use it before it's really useful. It's debatable whether that's a solved problem with Twitter (actually, some people I know have yet to solve it for email ;) Do wonder though: if we have to "adapt to the software", then isn't that de facto a symptom of bad/lazy product design? Haven’t actually tried it yet (though a friend tells me he’s just sent an invite, hurrah), and it sounds to me like a bottomless attention sink, but I wouldn’t write it off yet. It certainly wouldn’t be the first collaborative tool where we have to evolve a social convention for how to use it before it’s really useful. It’s debatable whether that’s a solved problem with Twitter (actually, some people I know have yet to solve it for email ;)

Do wonder though: if we have to “adapt to the software”, then isn’t that de facto a symptom of bad/lazy product design?

]]> By: The Cheap Computer Geek » Blog Archive » Riding the Google Wave http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/bove-the-contentious-waves-he-kept/comment-page-1/#comment-959 The Cheap Computer Geek » Blog Archive » Riding the Google Wave Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:39:33 +0000 http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/?p=168#comment-959 [...] and writing the narrative. (We were also supposed to publish this as-is, but like Ian Truscott and Philippe Parker, I prefer the meta-level and write about the writing, rather than letting the Wave roll [...] [...] and writing the narrative. (We were also supposed to publish this as-is, but like Ian Truscott and Philippe Parker, I prefer the meta-level and write about the writing, rather than letting the Wave roll [...]

]]> By: Wave experiment: Things We Hate About Content Management – Technology of Content http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/bove-the-contentious-waves-he-kept/comment-page-1/#comment-894 Wave experiment: Things We Hate About Content Management – Technology of Content Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:12:25 +0000 http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/?p=168#comment-894 [...] are here: Jon Marks, Irina Guseva, Ian Truscott; other participants Adriaan Bloem, Andrew Liles, Philippe Parker (first use of Wave over [...] [...] are here: Jon Marks, Irina Guseva, Ian Truscott; other participants Adriaan Bloem, Andrew Liles, Philippe Parker (first use of Wave over [...]

]]> By: Matt Hamilton http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/bove-the-contentious-waves-he-kept/comment-page-1/#comment-851 Matt Hamilton Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:54:56 +0000 http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/?p=168#comment-851 Your thoughts are similar to mine on reading about this experiment, namely what does this do that you can't do with existing tools? You mention Google Docs... another great one for this kind of thing is Etherpad.com which also allows you to save versions of the doc and add revision notes etc. We've used it for collaboratively writing marketing material and drafting web page copy amongst a distributed group of people. OK, so it doesn't have all the integration stuff that Wave is on about, but for simply collaborating on a document then there are lighter tools. I remember seeing a proof of concept at a conference a number of years ago for the Plone CMS where someone developed an AJAX realtime widget that allowed collaborative editing as well. -Matt Your thoughts are similar to mine on reading about this experiment, namely what does this do that you can’t do with existing tools? You mention Google Docs… another great one for this kind of thing is Etherpad.com which also allows you to save versions of the doc and add revision notes etc. We’ve used it for collaboratively writing marketing material and drafting web page copy amongst a distributed group of people. OK, so it doesn’t have all the integration stuff that Wave is on about, but for simply collaborating on a document then there are lighter tools. I remember seeing a proof of concept at a conference a number of years ago for the Plone CMS where someone developed an AJAX realtime widget that allowed collaborative editing as well.

-Matt

]]> By: Tweets that mention ‘Bove the contentious waves he kept « Contented Management -- Topsy.com http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/bove-the-contentious-waves-he-kept/comment-page-1/#comment-840 Tweets that mention ‘Bove the contentious waves he kept « Contented Management -- Topsy.com Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:41:09 +0000 http://contentedmanagement.net/blog/?p=168#comment-840 [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Philippe Parker, Philip Arkcoll. Philip Arkcoll said: RT @proops: my thoughts on our #Wave experiment http://bit.ly/3E7rkO --> Very interesting. I've had a similar experience. [...] [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Philippe Parker, Philip Arkcoll. Philip Arkcoll said: RT @proops: my thoughts on our #Wave experiment http://bit.ly/3E7rkO –> Very interesting. I've had a similar experience. [...]

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